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Of those who replied, most are long time (5 years) CIAO users. The sample covers a good range of grad students, postdocs and faculty.
A majority (over 60 percent) never use scripting - if they use sherpa/chips, they don't take advantage of the scripting language capabilities.
Of those who do, there's a fairly even split between current s-lang and python users, but a significantly larger number of users plan to learn python (70% vs 47%)
For the minority that care about scripting, 30% feel that python support is 'very' important; 20% feel that way about S-lang.
70% of users feel that a CIAO 3.4-style CLI interface is somewhat or very important, versus 65% for python and 50% for S-lang. (The numbers are 40/30/10 if you restrict it to 'very' important).
Most users type sherpa at the command line (rather than 'python'; a few type chips for plotting). Users are not making used of the ability to import sherpa and chips into an existing python session. 18 percent have imported other CIAO modules (e.g. caldb?) into a session.
Since only 10 percent of users think that the S-lang interface support is 'very important', we should consider ending S-lang sherpa/chips support and focus on python (possibly with an option for a limited CLI back compatibility layer).
The users are almost all self-identified as X-ray astronomers. However, 31 percent of them use CIAO at least sometimes for looking at data from other wavelengths.
As expected, everyone uses the tools, including a_p_e and the dm tools. 60% use Sherpa/chips. 35% sometimes use prism; use of peg is rare.
For comparison, 20% of users reported use of ISIS; a larger number reported that they sometimes or often use XSPEC and IDL.
52% of users sometimes use CIAO3.4. 11% have not yet installed CIAO4.x at all. Sherpa users are currently about 50/50 between use of CIAO 3.4 and CIAO 4.x.
Comments on changes to the Sherpa interface were largely negative - many users preferred the old style CLI, and feel that the documentation for Sherpa 4 is still insufficient. Although more users are now transitioning to Sherpa 4, we do plan to address these concerns. A minority (17%) have a large number of old CIAO 3.4 scripts.
Users reported that they don't have the motivation (3.4 is good enough) or the time to learn a new interface; they would switch if there were a back compatible CLI and/or they realized that the system was more robust; performance and doc improvements would also help.
On the other hand, there were some generally positive comments on python support.
Chips is used almost exclusively via sherpa; users use IDL, pgplot, and sm for general plotting tasks (not much use of matplotlib yet, but some reference to matplotlib in other comments).
For the most part (with the exception of Sherpa4) people were happy with the documentation, although navigation to find what you needed was an issue. All of the doc/help methods are useful to some significant group of users, no one thing (ahelp/threads/etc) stood out above the others. Abbreviated threads for expert users were suggested by one user.
There are now very few Solaris users, and the remaining ones are mostly planning to transition to Mac or Linux in the next couple of years. We should consider reducing Solaris support for CIAO users, even if DS releases still need it.
There are also a small number of remaining users on the Mac PPC; however, some report that their machines are high end desktops and that they do not have funds to buy replacements. We should consider whether we can provide a reduced form of continuing support for these users.
64 bit linux is now slightly more common than 32 bit.
Most users are not planning to switch OS in the near future, but those who do are all switching to Mac OS Leopard.
A range of Linux distros are in use (Sci Linux, Ubuntu, Debian, SUSE, Red Hat Enterprise, CentOS) but Fedora remains the dominant one. Of those who provided uname information, 45 out of 74 linux machines were running Fedora or RHEL.
Differences between the CXC_only and non-CXC groups do not seem significant.
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| Faculty or equivalent | 41.4% | 63 | |
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| CXC-SAO | 28.5% | 43 | |
| CXC-MIT | 4.6% | 7 | |
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| 5. CIAO currently supports two scripting languages, S-Lang and Python. Do you write scripts in any of these languages? (even if you do not currently use them in CIAO) | ||||
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| Python | 62.9% (90) | 25.9% (37) | 11.2% (16) | 143 |
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| S-Lang | 51.6% (66) | 32.8% (42) | 15.6% (20) | 128 |
| Python | 26.1% (37) | 42.3% (60) | 31.7% (45) | 142 |
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| 7. How long have you been using CIAO? | |||
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| Never used it | 5.0% | 7 | |
| Less than 1 year | 6.4% | 9 | |
| 1 to 5 years | 28.4% | 40 | |
| More than 5 years | 60.3% | 85 | |
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| 8. Which of the following kinds of data analysis you perform with CIAO? | ||||
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| X-ray low resolution imaging (CCD) spectroscopy | 8.4% (11) | 35.9% (47) | 55.7% (73) | 131 |
| X-ray high resolution grating spectroscopy | 52.8% (66) | 31.2% (39) | 16.0% (20) | 125 |
| X-ray imaging and spatial analysis | 7.8% (10) | 33.3% (43) | 58.9% (76) | 129 |
| X-ray detection, photometry and hardness ratios | 18.4% (23) | 35.2% (44) | 46.4% (58) | 125 |
| X-ray timing analysis | 42.9% (54) | 45.2% (57) | 11.9% (15) | 126 |
| X-ray bright sources | 20.5% (26) | 52.0% (66) | 27.6% (35) | 127 |
| X-ray faint sources | 9.5% (12) | 38.1% (48) | 52.4% (66) | 126 |
| X-ray point sources | 6.2% (8) | 39.5% (51) | 54.3% (70) | 129 |
| X-ray extended sources | 16.4% (21) | 41.4% (53) | 42.2% (54) | 128 |
| Other wavelength imaging/photometry/colors with CIAO | 68.9% (82) | 22.7% (27) | 8.4% (10) | 119 |
| Other wavelength spectroscopy with CIAO | 89.9% (107) | 8.4% (10) | 1.7% (2) | 119 |
| Other wavelength timing with CIAO | 90.7% (107) | 9.3% (11) | 0.0% (0) | 118 |
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| 9. When you use CIAO, how often do you use the following components for your analysis? | ||||
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| Chandra specific tools (e.g. acis_process_events, hrc_process_events, mkacisrmf, mkarf) | 5.9% (8) | 16.2% (22) | 77.9% (106) | 136 |
| General analysis tools (e.g. dmcopy, wavdetect, csmooth) | 4.5% (6) | 25.4% (34) | 70.1% (94) | 134 |
| Sherpa | 38.3% (51) | 40.6% (54) | 21.1% (28) | 133 |
| ChIPS | 39.7% (52) | 45.8% (60) | 14.5% (19) | 131 |
| Prism | 63.8% (83) | 30.8% (40) | 5.4% (7) | 130 |
| PEG | 89.0% (113) | 10.2% (13) | 0.8% (1) | 127 |
| CIAO tools menu in ds9 | 42.7% (56) | 42.7% (56) | 14.5% (19) | 131 |
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| 10. What is the latest version of CIAO which is installed in your primary working platform? The version number of CIAO is echoed to the screen when you type "ciao -v". | |||
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| CIAO 3.4 | 11.5% | 16 | |
| CIAO 4.0 | 4.3% | 6 | |
| CIAO 4.1.1 | 15.8% | 22 | |
| CIAO 4.1.2 | 66.2% | 92 | |
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| Sherpa in CIAO 4.x ("SHERPA4") | 55.2% (74) | 17.2% (23) | 18.7% (25) | 9.0% (12) | 134 |
| Sherpa in CIAO 3.4 ("SHERPA3") | 56.2% (73) | 14.6% (19) | 23.1% (30) | 6.2% (8) | 130 |
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| XSpec11 | 32.8% (40) | 17.2% (21) | 29.5% (36) | 20.5% (25) | 122 |
| XSpec12 | 21.1% (27) | 14.1% (18) | 30.5% (39) | 34.4% (44) | 128 |
| isis | 69.4% (84) | 10.7% (13) | 5.0% (6) | 14.9% (18) | 121 |
| IDL | 37.7% (46) | 19.7% (24) | 24.6% (30) | 18.0% (22) | 122 |
| PintofAle | 93.3% (112) | 0.8% (1) | 2.5% (3) | 3.3% (4) | 120 |
| SPEX | 90.8% (108) | 5.9% (7) | 2.5% (3) | 0.8% (1) | 119 |
| Other (specify in comment box) | 76.0% (57) | 2.7% (2) | 9.3% (7) | 12.0% (9) | 75 |
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| 16. Do you use ChIPS for plotting your data? | |||||
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| ChIPS in CIAO 4.x ("CHIPS4") | 58.9% (76) | 6.2% (8) | 34.9% (45) | 4.7% (6) | 129 |
| ChIPS in CIAO 3.4 ("CHIPS3") | 60.7% (74) | 4.1% (5) | 32.0% (39) | 5.7% (7) | 122 |
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| IDL | 29.7% (38) | 18.0% (23) | 26.6% (34) | 25.8% (33) | 128 |
| PGPLOT | 25.8% (33) | 12.5% (16) | 39.8% (51) | 21.9% (28) | 128 |
| sm | 55.6% (69) | 12.9% (16) | 14.5% (18) | 16.9% (21) | 124 |
| Matplotlib | 79.7% (94) | 6.8% (8) | 8.5% (10) | 5.1% (6) | 118 |
| Grace | 70.8% (85) | 15.8% (19) | 10.0% (12) | 3.3% (4) | 120 |
| Other (specify in comment) | 63.6% (49) | 6.5% (5) | 13.0% (10) | 16.9% (13) | 77 |
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| 20. In general, how important is it to your work that CIAO support these languages? | |||||
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| S-Lang | 46.1% (59) | 19.5% (25) | 18.8% (24) | 15.6% (20) | 128 |
| Python | 31.5% (41) | 20.8% (27) | 30.8% (40) | 16.9% (22) | 130 |
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| 21. Do you ever use intrinsic features or functions of the scripting languages in your Sherpa or ChIPS sessions (e.g. scripting, variable arithmetic, accessing internal variables)? | |||||
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| S-Lang | 65.8% (79) | 16.7% (20) | 9.2% (11) | 8.3% (10) | 120 |
| Python | 62.3% (76) | 20.5% (25) | 8.2% (10) | 9.0% (11) | 122 |
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| Interactive 'classic' command-line language (as in CIAO3.4) | 30.4% (31) | 30.4% (31) | 39.2% (40) | 102 |
| S-Lang command line interface (as in CIAO 4.x) | 51.5% (51) | 38.4% (38) | 10.1% (10) | 99 |
| Python command line interface (as in CIAO 4.x) | 35.1% (34) | 36.1% (35) | 28.9% (28) | 97 |
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| Type 'sherpa' at the Unix command line | 25.0% (23) | 6.5% (6) | 17.4% (16) | 51.1% (47) | 92 |
| Type 'chips' at the Unix command line | 38.2% (34) | 15.7% (14) | 13.5% (12) | 32.6% (29) | 89 |
| Import sherpa and/or chips to an slsh session | 76.7% (66) | 10.5% (9) | 10.5% (9) | 2.3% (2) | 86 |
| Import sherpa and/or chips to a python or ipython session. | 70.0% (63) | 11.1% (10) | 14.4% (13) | 4.4% (4) | 90 |
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| 24. Have you ever used any of the other S-Lang or Python modules (pixlib, paramio, group, crates, region, stackio, transform, caldb4) distributed with CIAO | |||
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| Python Modules | 18.7% (23) | 81.3% (100) | 123 |
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| 25. Do you still use CIAO 3.4 for your data analysis? | |||
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| 26. Roughly how many SHERPA3 or CHIPS3 scripts do you currently have (e.g. output of "save all" in Sherpa, "save state" in Chips, your own scripts) | ||||
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| SHERPA3 | 82.5% (66) | 12.5% (10) | 5.0% (4) | 80 |
| CHIPS3 | 90.5% (67) | 6.8% (5) | 2.7% (2) | 74 |
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| CIAO3.4 with SHERPA3 and CHIPS3 is good enough for what I need | 40.7% | 22 | |
| I did not find the time to learn the different syntax of SHERPA4 and CHIPS4 | 51.9% | 28 | |
| I do not want to learn a different syntax | 29.6% | 16 | |
| I prefer a "classic" command line interface for Sherpa or ChIPS | 33.3% | 18 | |
| I prefer to stay with a software system that I know and trust | 29.6% | 16 | |
| I have too many Sherpa and/or ChIPS scripts to translate | 25.9% | 14 | |
| I did not realize that CIAO4 had additional capabilities | 13.0% | 7 | |
| There is not enough documentation for me to switch | 22.2% | 12 | |
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| 28. What would make you upgrade to a future CIAO4 release, with SHERPA4 and CHIPS4? | ||||
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| Additional functionality | 20.3% (12) | 52.5% (31) | 27.1% (16) | 59 |
| Higher performance | 15.8% (9) | 47.4% (27) | 36.8% (21) | 57 |
| More reliability | 11.7% (7) | 38.3% (23) | 51.7% (31) | 60 |
| A back compatible command line interface for Sherpa and Chips | 20.0% (11) | 25.5% (14) | 54.5% (30) | 55 |
| A new plotting GUI for ChIPS and/or Sherpa | 60.0% (33) | 27.3% (15) | 12.7% (7) | 55 |
| A new GUI for Sherpa | 64.9% (37) | 24.6% (14) | 10.5% (6) | 57 |
| Better documentation explaining the transition | 19.0% (11) | 44.8% (26) | 37.9% (22) | 58 |
| Other (specify in comment box) | 52.9% (9) | 23.5% (4) | 23.5% (4) | 17 |
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| ahelp | 1.6% (2) | 6.3% (8) | 19.8% (25) | 45.2% (57) | 27.0% (34) | 126 |
| analysis threads | 0.8% (1) | 3.2% (4) | 12.8% (16) | 47.2% (59) | 36.0% (45) | 125 |
| analysis guides | 4.9% (6) | 9.0% (11) | 32.0% (39) | 32.8% (40) | 21.3% (26) | 122 |
| why topics | 17.9% (20) | 29.5% (33) | 32.1% (36) | 14.3% (16) | 6.3% (7) | 112 |
| send a ticket to helpdesk | 19.3% (23) | 48.7% (58) | 23.5% (28) | 5.9% (7) | 2.5% (3) | 119 |
| ask a colleague | 2.4% (3) | 22.0% (27) | 29.3% (36) | 36.6% (45) | 9.8% (12) | 123 |
| search with Google | 18.7% (23) | 28.5% (35) | 24.4% (30) | 22.8% (28) | 5.7% (7) | 123 |
| use the search box on CIAO web page | 19.5% (24) | 27.6% (34) | 25.2% (31) | 21.1% (26) | 6.5% (8) | 123 |
| contact someone directly at the CXC | 30.3% (37) | 34.4% (42) | 21.3% (26) | 9.0% (11) | 4.9% (6) | 122 |
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| 31. Which types of computer platform do you use for data analysis? (including e.g. work, home, laptop machines) | |||||
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| Solaris 10: | 79.8% (67) | 14.3% (12) | 6.0% (5) | 0.0% (0) | 84 |
| Solaris (pre 10): | 77.5% (62) | 17.5% (14) | 3.8% (3) | 1.3% (1) | 80 |
| MacOSX 10.5 (Leopard) Intel | 39.1% (36) | 16.3% (15) | 20.7% (19) | 23.9% (22) | 92 |
| MacOSX 10.5 (Leopard) PPC | 90.7% (68) | 6.7% (5) | 1.3% (1) | 1.3% (1) | 75 |
| MacOSX 10.4 (Tiger) Intel | 78.8% (63) | 6.3% (5) | 10.0% (8) | 5.0% (4) | 80 |
| MacOSX 10.4 (Tiger) PPC | 72.9% (62) | 17.6% (15) | 4.7% (4) | 4.7% (4) | 85 |
| 32-bit Linux (specify distribution in comment box: e.g. Fedora Core 10, Debian 5.0, etc) | 27.5% (28) | 20.6% (21) | 25.5% (26) | 26.5% (27) | 102 |
| 64-bit Linux (specify distribution in comment box) | 34.7% (34) | 10.2% (10) | 22.4% (22) | 32.7% (32) | 98 |
| Other (specify in comment box) | 95.9% (47) | 2.0% (1) | 2.0% (1) | 0.0% (0) | 49 |
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| 32. Can you please include the output of 'uname -a' on your primary data analysis machine? | ||
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| 33. Do you have any plans to switch hardware or operating system (e.g.solaris to linux, linux to mac, mac powerpc to intel, Tiger to Leopard etc.) in the next year? | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| answered question | 124 | ||
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skipped question |
36
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| Response
Percent |
Response
Count |
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| No | 62.9% | 78 | |
| Not sure | 20.2% | 25 | |
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16.9% | 21 | |
| 34. When or why do you generally upgrade operating system? | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| answered question | 117 | ||
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skipped question |
43
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| Response
Percent |
Response
Count |
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| I upgrade the day it comes out | 14.5% | 17 | |
| The IT department takes care of it, I don't control | 51.3% | 60 | |
| Whenever one of the software packages I use requires it | 22.2% | 26 | |
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23.1% | 27 | |
| 35. Do you use a CIAO distribution installed by a system adminstrator (rather than by yourself)? | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| answered question | 125 | ||
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skipped question |
35
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| Response
Percent |
Response
Count |
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| Yes | 42.4% | 53 | |
| No | 30.4% | 38 | |
| Both | 27.2% | 34 | |